Episode 17 - International Asatru - Eldaring

This month we interview Ingmar Lauer and Isabelle Jaus about the Eldaring and their experiences practicing Asatru in Germany. We chat about the troubles (or lack thereof) of the Nazi legacy to the practicing Asatruar. Ingmar does not hold back his opinions about the radical and extremist groups. And we have a fun time all around.

The Eldaring website (and in English)

Ingmar also mentioned a site for many Northern European contacts.

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19 Responses to “Episode 17 - International Asatru - Eldaring”

  1. Wow….I think it extremely poor form for Ingmar to equate heathens who use Armanen runes as wacko racists. Although personally I am an Elder futhark man, I know many fine folks and at least one fine national group that employ the Armanen futhark. I am wondering what your kindred brother and vice president of the Irminen-Gesellschaft thinks of Ingmars comments?

    Mitch Z said this on January 7th, 2008 at 5:09 pm

  2. Deplorable. Ingmar’s gross misrepresentations about Von List are appalling and his views are (putting it mildly) ignorant in their bigotry. The “fun” you have at the expense of traditions many of your supporters and former supporters (such as myself) hold dear and sacred is disgraceful.

    James Hjuka Coulter said this on January 8th, 2008 at 6:48 am

  3. Ingmar’s comments about von List are ridiculous…it only exposes his own ignorance and lack of broader knowledge in the hidden lor of the folk. Shame.

    Cody said this on January 8th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

  4. Great interview! Thanks to Ingamr & Isa for being our best ambassadors. ;) Looking forward to listening to more Ravencasts now. (And I’ll just ignore the ignorance in the previous commets here… *sighs*)

    Tim Peters said this on January 8th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

  5. Please consider, that the interview was about the heathen scene in _Germany_. The things I’ve said were targeted at certain German groups. Through my kinsman Steve, I’m well aware of the fact that there are people in the US who try their best to seperate the racial and esoterical absurd in Lists work from his unobjectable ideas. If people belong to these groups and feel unrightfully attacked, please accept my apology. I never had in mind to bash people from the I.G. for instance - How could I? I wasn’t even thinking of them during the interview, because we talked about heathen groups in Germany. If, however, some people feel I spat upon their “Armanen Brothers in the Fatherland” - well, then I maybe wasn’t barking up an entirely wrong tree. If people think, my knowledge on the Armanen business is poor, rest assured that I personally met people from the Armanen Orden and did enough reading not only of primary sources but also secondary literature of both historians and heathen scholars alike that let to my opinion. But as I said, that only referrs to groups in Germany who associate with Armanens. That’s what I was talking about in the interview, and I’m sorry if people feel insulted because that wasn’t clearly stressed in the interview.

    Cheers, Ingmar

    Ingmar Lauer said this on January 8th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

  6. Awesome podcast, though I am new to Ravencast and Asatru in general (I’ve been studying Druidism for the last several years), so I can’t comment on the negative comments above.

    Am I the only one that thought his voice was incredibly hot?

    CrystalGroves said this on January 8th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

  7. Great Eldaring interview. Thanks. Ingmar and Isa are fine embassadors for our german organization!

    GardenStone said this on January 9th, 2008 at 4:44 am

  8. Yeah, thanks to Ingmar and Isa — as a Heathen German, I feel adequately represented. And thanks to the Ravencast team for presenting the two. As for bigotry, it appears to be a European tradition — and von List had his own peculiar share in that tradition.

    Americans who find wisdom in the Armananen runes need not feel offended by Ingmar’s comments because they are part of an interview about “practicing Asatru in Germany”, and this national context they hold true.

    gundulaR said this on January 9th, 2008 at 7:23 am

  9. Without wanting to needlessly prolong the discussion regarding Armanen etc., just my two cents. Of all the people I have had the doubtful pleasure to meet (accidently) or read about in the last ten years in Germany who had any kind of positive outlook and/or were affiliated to Armanen-related organizations and/or practices etc., nine out of ten had radical right-wing political views and did in fact promote truly racist and anti-semitic agendas. Anyone who can speak and read fluent German should be able to do the maths him or herself, with just a little bit of research. The primary sources really speak for themselves. One really does not even have to be left-wing to have strong views about this. Ingmar knows what he’s talking about. I rest my case.

    H. said this on January 11th, 2008 at 10:26 am

  10. I don’t agree with some of what Ingmar said but I’m glad the show allows a variety of opinions to be expressed.

    Alfred said this on January 12th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

  11. I’ve greatly enjoyed all the podcasts so far. This was definitely one of my favorites. You guys sounded like you were having a lot of fun. Keep up the great work.

    Ragnarr said this on January 13th, 2008 at 11:26 am

  12. Worst one yet.

    Jay said this on January 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

  13. Best podcast yet. Ingmar and Isa’s views on racism feel absolutely appropriate here in the states too. I listened to this cast the day after MLK day, and to my dismay, we STILL have confused members of our folk expressing hatred toward a people and culture that they obviously have never truly attempted to understand.

    I thank Ingmar and Isa for coming to the US and expressing this voice. It is one that should unite we Asa-folk against racism globally. Imagine, Asatru; a bastion for the environment, and a bastion for equality and diversity.

    Thanks again Dave and Sandi for bringing these strong voices to the US, and thanks again for the amazing contribution you serve to our community.

    Frith from Oregon,

    Ryan Clark

    Ryan Clark said this on January 22nd, 2008 at 7:10 pm

  14. I enjoyed the show greatly. I found it interesting. I would like to hear interviews from others ie: Norway, Iceland, Finland…

    Robert said this on January 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

  15. I grew up in Germany as a son of AMerican parents, but my schooling, friends, and general life was all German. Germany has been under massive political reeducation since WW2. Anything even remotely connected with the Third Reich is not only taboo, but probably illegal. I practice Asatru. Europe is presently undergoing a massive immigration by non-European peoples. These peoples, mainly Muslims, do not integrate, do not blend in and generally create their own separate living communities. So, what does that mean for our European Mother land? In the name of ‘Diversity’, ‘Equality’ and other such wonderful sounding slogans, what is actually happening on the ground? Is this really a good thing? Is it really a plus for non-Europeans to be taking over our ancestral lands? Because that is what’s happening. Now, what generally happens when somebody opposes this trend is that they get tarred with the ‘fascist’, ‘nazi’, ‘right-wing extremist’ brush. That is political re-education in action. Asatreu, a bastion for equality and diversity….What does that mean? We are supposed to roll oever and let non-Europeans take over our lands? Wake up! It’s happening here too. The pc assumption is that only Europeans are racist. How completely naive.

    Mike said this on January 26th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

  16. A very well done piece. Cheers to Ingmar and Isabelle. I think you two represented your folk very very well.

    B said this on February 2nd, 2008 at 5:47 am

  17. I agree with Ingmar and what he said about the Armanen. They have nothing whatsoever to do with traditional Asatru. Guido “von” List based his “Futhark” on the Runes, but they are not a historical system that was ever used by the Germanic peoples and there for not valid in any way. Armanism is just as factual as “Lord of the Rings”, which is also based on northern mythology. List was not even a polytheist, he was a pantheist and believed in ONE god, with many manifestations. All you need is a great goddess and boom……your Wiccan.

    Erik said this on March 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm

  18. Worst one yet, I know the Germans have special problems, but this self guilt and “nazi” phobia is pathetic

    Jack N said this on March 7th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

  19. I love this podcast. Listening to it makes me whant to research Asatru even further. Great job

    Ryan said this on March 26th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

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